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Thursday, 14 October 2004

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Huh. You know I never thought about it like that. Been hunting deer for 10 years using a 60 year old '06 Garand that my Uncle bought after WWII. He used one just like in Germany. Back then, civilians could get one just by being part of a gun club and paying a small fee. I guess nowadays it would be labelled an illegal assault rifle and impossible to get the way he did. But it brings down deer perfect, I just have to put a plug in the magazine so it only holds 5 and it's legal for game. Now I'm calling it my WWII sniper rifle from now on, just to piss off people like Kerry.

Hey Bubba, actually the assault weapon ban is history now, although your rifle, an M-1 Garand .30-'06, was never included in the ban (but the .308 version was!). You can still get them the way your uncle did. It is called the civilian marksmanship program sponsored by the government. You have to be a member of a sporting gun club (not the NRA, it has be something that is based on shooting competitions), take part in recognized shooting events, and pay the fee to the Department of Civilian Marksmanship. The fee is up around $600 right now, which is pretty steep. But you still receive a surplus M-1, and they sell used for 2-3 times that at gun shows. Imagine, the government on the one hand is banning all these "dangerous" rifles but with the other hand is literally giving away dangerous military weapons to gun club members. How is that for hypocrisy?

Now that you reminded me about this, keep an eye on the Second Amendment sidebar list for a link to the program.

definition of sniper from Dicitonary.com
A skilled military shooter detailed to spot and pick off enemy soldiers from a concealed place.
One who shoots at other people from a concealed place.

So, correct me if I am wrong, anything that fits the criteria of a rifle (no idea what that might be) that is shot from a place of concealment, including behind the sofa and loaded with cotton balls, is a sniper rifle? Or have I missed something critical here?

This falls into the same category as the “plastic" guns of the '80s when the new polymer frames were introduced. At that time, the libs were screaming that these guns had the ability to bypass all forms of metal detecting security. I recently ran into some lingering stupidity over this issue at a seminar at the UofO. I simply replied, (to paraphrase Gulliver) “you say that because you know absolutely NOTHING about firearms.”

Cliff


Yes, they keep bringing this up in their attacks on Dick Cheney. You see, as a Congressman, Cheney (along with a lot of other Congressmen, since it never became law...) voted against a ban on plastic guns. He knew, of course, that the ban was simply an unadulterated attempt at handgun control, banning Glocks and their kin. But the only rationale was that they could supposedly bypass metal detectors. Cheney knew that was crap because only the grip frame is made from polymers. The barrel, slide, internals, and bullets are all still metal. Don't believe me? Take a Glock to the airport and see how long it takes for them to bust you!

What are you guys talking about guns for, you are the ones that didnt want to go to war in the first place. As far as im concerned you can all go puritan and leave us the fuck alone. Oh and by the way, George Busch won so you can take your kerry bumper stickers and shove them up your ass

I think Torch may have torched one too many.

Ohh goody, do I get to get into a techno-argument on semantics and guns at the same time? (grin)

Gully, only the M1-A, the 'civilian', semi-auto .308 version of the Garand was potentially covered by the ugly ban, due to it having TWO evil, nasty fixtures, the flash hider and the bayonet lug. (the magazines are separable, only the over 10 round ones were covered) The M-14 is a class III firearm, it has a selector.
I suppose M1 carbines, or the ones without a selector switch, were covered, too, for the same reasons, but who cares about those anyway? (grin)

There's nothing better than getting out in the wodds with your gun. What makes it even better is when you comes across a really nice 12 point buck.

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