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Friday, 19 August 2005



Hunting and gun ownership - well a bit. I love to hunt and its easier with a gun, especially in west Texas. BUT I could hunt with a bow and plan to this year. Gun ownership is more than that. The right to self defense is fundemental to a free man and my bow ain't gonna work for that.


Your Les Jones link on the Glock safety issue talks about the NY trigger versus factory tiggers in Glocks. I have a NY trigger in my Glock 26 (because it originated in NYPD and I've been too lazy to replace it) and a factory trigger in my 19. I dispute that you can barely tell a difference between the two. I can *definitely* tell the difference. Maybe it's because I spend so much time shooting my Glocks, but one thing people say about Glocks is that you have to love the trigger to be any good with them. The pull on the 26 certainly affects my shooting, although I wouldn't say significantly. But it can also be wearing over the course of a couple hundred rounds. Just something to think about it anyone is thinking of swapping out to heavier triggers.

Frankly I don't see it as a Glock/firearms issue so much as it is a training iss (as you mention). All you have to do is follow the four rules and you won't have any more trouble with a Glock than you would with a 1911. IMNSHO. :)


Hunting and gun ownership? Gun owners shouldn't fall into that trap. While the two share some appreciation for the 2nd too many hunters are willing to give up handguns and 'assault rifles' if the goverment would leave them alone.

As for the Glock, my G17 was my first centerfire gun. It's all in the mind. If you can keep your trigger finger where it belongs at all times you'll have no problems. If you're not a gun person and not willing to learn - something with a manual safety is probably a better idea.

As for me - the Glock is great. Favorite gun I've ever shot. BHP is a close second.


Hunting was very important to my development as a shooter. There simply is no better training than to be in the field, after specific animals under rigid rules about what can and can't be shot. Hunting taught me shooting discipline. I learned young that I could not just blaze away the moment I saw brown fur, I had to make sure that it was a legal critter. Then I had to wait until I was sure of a killing shot. On top of that, once I was sure, I had to take the shot before the opportunity was gone. Then I had to learn to deal with what happened after the shot. All of this, plus the woodcraft I learned as a boy hunter was invaluable in my later life when I wore Uncle's Suit in the Southeast Asian War Games. To this day I am sure I would have come home in one of those shiney aluminum boxes if not for what I leared as a boy.

I am fully aware that the Second Amendment has nothing to do with hunting. Nor am I saying one cannot become a complete shot without hunting. I will say that if I were charged with picking a squad of new recruits, right out of basic training to go to war with, I'd pick the boys that grew up hunting.

Retired Geezer

I went "hunting" when I was a teenager. (actually just hiking around with a gun, inadvertantly scaring the game away).
The first time I went on a *real* hunt was when I was 60. I was fortunate to go with some real hunters and they educated my wife and I.
BTW, I got my deer, dropped it instantly with one shot.
Normally we spend our shootin' time doing Cowboy Action Shooting.

Les Jones

Kit, in Farnam's defense, what he said was "In practical use, most shooters barely notice the difference. I've timed myself and many students drawing and firing with and without the NY Trigger, and I've consistently discovered the difference in time to be statistically unmeasurable."


Les, I suppose what I'm getting at is that being able to fire it quickly enough won't be an issue, but the accuracy might suffer unless you work only or primarily with that trigger weight in practice. And to me, it would be a bandaid to the safety problem. But then, I'm probably an amateur compared to most folks. :)

Mr. Completely

I grew up shooting rats on saturday nights a the dump when in high school. Way more fun that drinking yourself stupid and killing yourself in car accidents!

I think the second amendment ALSO applies to hunting, since hunting is one way to defend yourself and family against starvation, if things get really bad.......

Mr. Completely

(Where's my manners?)

Thanks for the honor of being selected as the gunblogger of the week in the Carnival of Cordite. Makes me want to go do some shooting, by golly!!

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