Seriously.
The Left was all onboard when Clinton lobbed some cruise missiles into an aspirin factory because Saddam was supposed to have been violating the WMD resolutions. Many on the Left claimed to be onboard (somewhat) leading up to the Iraq War. But in the aftermath of the liberation, the entire Left has consistently come unglued because, as it claims (other evidence to the contrary) "there never were any WMD's."
Well folks, no one can doubt the existence of WMD's in Korea. So let's roll.
Would the Left support it? Or would the Left find some other reason, not associated with the presence or absence of WMD's, to "blame Bush"?
They certainly couldn't blame it on oil...
They certainly couldn't blame it on oil...
Well, no. But hot air can be a source of energy....
Posted by: Max | Friday, 13 October 2006 at 08:47 PM
No what will happen is some report will be published (most likely from the french) that says the "big boom" was nothing more than a large non-nuclear device being detonated.
The left will cite this report as evidence that invading NK is wrong. Then they will cite this same report over and over and further state that US forces are spread to thin in the first place.
It would be a no win situation if we invaded (Not that I am not for invading).
Posted by: Jim in KFalls | Friday, 13 October 2006 at 09:35 PM
Maybe we just need to declare martial law and round up and shoot all the conspiracy theorists.
no, wait, the fact that we haven't yet pretty much nullifies most of their arguments.
and of course, if we DON'T invade, then it's Bush's fault for not taking action.
screw the left. do what needs to be done and history will remember you well.
Posted by: Gullyborg | Friday, 13 October 2006 at 09:50 PM
The ChiComs are plenty pissed about this nuke test.
It's safe to say that anytime Bejing gives the order, a PLA team within Dear Leader's palace guard can get to him and put a bullet in the back of his head.
What we need to do is find out what their price would be for doing it...
Posted by: Rivrdog | Friday, 13 October 2006 at 11:03 PM
Fact check
Clinton bombed the "aspirin factory" in Sudan in response to OSAMA BIN LADEN's attacks on our embassies in Africa. No Saddam anywhere on that story. He also tried to hit an Al-Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan (which incidentally had been set up by the CIA under Reagan to train the muhajadeen - later Al-Qaeda) but the military missed by miles and hit Pakistan.
I don't think the problem is Bush, Clinton, or any other President. The problem seems to be ineptitude in the ranks of the CIA and military. How could we be caught off guard by this North Korea explosion? The presidential problem is when the leader of the free world relies on bad intelligence (or in Bush's case seeks out inaccurate intelligence).
The inmates are running the asylum.
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Posted by: Online Casino | Saturday, 14 October 2006 at 04:42 AM
After traveling on the Governor's Trade Mission in late June and discussing China with some economic experts, the bottom line is China needs us as much as we need them. Why we are not threatening their pocket books is beyond me. We start talking trade, and the economy, China will stop North Korea. This is downright stupidity on the administration's part.
North Korea is controlled by China, the middle east is not controlled by one country but instead a few warlords.
Posted by: Sid Leiken | Saturday, 14 October 2006 at 08:38 AM
Kim Jong is crazy and that makes him dangerous. Talking to him would be a waste of time.
I agree 'let's roll'. I would only talk at him and tell him this is how it will be or else. Tuff if he doesn't like the or else.
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Posted by: HMIL | Saturday, 14 October 2006 at 10:30 AM
Hey Rural "Republican,"
The only people caught off guard by North Korea are liberal progressives. As chief data technician for the Reactor Products Program in the Air Force Technical Applications Center - an organization dedicated to monitoring international compliance with nuclear agreements - we were aware as early as 1995 that North Korea was working towards nuclear weapons.
You know what Clinton did?
He stood idly by while our lab was decomissioned, a third of our capability was "outsourced" to private labs with no government control, and another third was outright abandoned.
Meanwhile, every conservative in the world was worried about North Korea. If you recall, Bush called North Korea part of the "axis of evil" and our national policy towards North Korea has, since the dawn of the Bush Administration, been in anticipation of this day.
What stopped us from preventing this?
LIBERAL PROGRESSIVES IN GOVERNMENT AND THE INTELLECTUAL ELITE WHO DO NOTHING BUT OBSTRUCT.
We want to pressure North Korea? Oh, we'd better not upset the international community. Oh, we'd better get international support. Oh, we should pursue unilateral communications. Oh, we can't piss off China. Oh, we should just help them and then they won't be our enemies. Oh, let's do a study. Oh, let's hold hands and sing Kumbayah by the biofuel low emission campfire away from the old growth forest.
Who was caught off guard? Only idiots who really thought we could all just get along.
Yes, the inmates are, and have been running the asylum, all right. But the inmates are the "progressives" who, despite a "numerical" advantage by so-called "Republicans," still control most of our government.
You want a solution? Replace "Republicans" like Chafee, Snowe, Collins, Specter, Voinovich, DeWine, Graham, and McCain with Democrats... Democrats like Zell Miller.
Posted by: Gullyborg | Saturday, 14 October 2006 at 11:10 AM
Mayor Leiken,
You are correct about the big picture, but wrong to blame the administration. The administration has been hamstrung by a liberal obstructionist Senate since 2000. See comment above.
A real conservative Senate would really help our President, because the Senate is the stumbling block when it comes to appointing visionaries to the State department. Look at the difficulty we have had with John Bolton, for instance.
Also, the Senate has the power to ratify treaties under the Constitution.
We can't create an effective foreign policy as long as the Senate is dominated by a coalition of 44 democrats and a dozen or so "progressive" Republicans who care more about a globalist agenda (and their own Presidential aspirations) than protecting the interests of their own nation.
The problem Bush has had, and it must be genetic because his father had the same problem, is that he has been unable to publicly make the case in a way that separates himself from the rogue republicans. I'm guessing Bush is trying to hard to be a "uniter." We don't need to please everyone. We need to have 51% of the people on board, in order to take action. Bush needs to find the 51 Senators who are most likely to be able to work together, force the aptly-nicknamed "nuclear option" in the Senate to break filibusters, and then plough ahead without giving a rat's behind about what the progressives think.
Posted by: Gullyborg | Saturday, 14 October 2006 at 11:11 AM
Even if invading North Korea were a good idea, we can't--we don't have the forces to properly conduct the missions in Afghanistan and Iraq, remember?
In order to invade North Korea, there likely would need to be a draft ASAP, and that ain't likely to happen.
Now, if the ill-advised war in Iraq hadn't happened, perhaps there would be sufficient forces to launch an invasion of North Korea, but there aren't now.
Of course, if we hadn't invaded Iraq, perhaps we could have had sufficient forces in Afghanistan to have prevented the re-emergence of the Taliban. Hey, perhaps we would even have caught that guy that George W. Bush "doesn't think that much about" anymore. You know, Osama bin Laden.
Posted by: The Truth Hurts | Monday, 16 October 2006 at 03:31 PM
Actually, we have more than enough capability. We are currently using about 20% of our capability in Iraq in Afghanistan. The bulk of our troops and equipment are either stateside, or else doing NOTHING guarding Europe against a Soviet aggressor that no longer warrants such a commitment.
And until you spend 5 years in military intelligence, you really don't offer much in the way of insight towards the capability of our armed forces.
In fact, until you spend ANY time in uniform, I really don't think you contribute jack shit to this discussion.
Posted by: Gullyborg | Tuesday, 17 October 2006 at 06:43 PM